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Post by lynnc on Dec 4, 2018 12:52:38 GMT -5
I'd like to start by making 2 suggestions. First and most important is, we need an escalator from the parking lot to our range. It's hard on us FOGs getting back to our vehicles. Second, we need to go back to revolver neutral stages, at least for the first 6 rounds. Since this is a practical pistol club that supports training we need to include more things that emphasize handling skills such as emergency, and tactical reloads. And I'm not talking about dumping a partially loaded magazine on the ground to load a pistol with a round in the chamber, but either slide lock emergency reload or a reload with magazine retention. If you train for the bad stuff, then you don't have to make it up when it happens for real.
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Post by Site Admin on Dec 4, 2018 13:36:38 GMT -5
I'd like to start by making 2 suggestions. First and most important is, we need an escalator from the parking lot to our range. It's hard on us FOGs getting back to our vehicles. Second, we need to go back to revolver neutral stages, at least for the first 6 rounds. Since this is a practical pistol club that supports training we need to include more things that emphasize handling skills such as emergency, and tactical reloads. And I'm not talking about dumping a partially loaded magazine on the ground to load a pistol with a round in the chamber, but either slide lock emergency reload or a reload with magazine retention. If you train for the bad stuff, then you don't have to make it up when it happens for real. (Sniff Here) with my .2 cents I concur with the escalator in full. Or at least a vehicle to ferry us up and down our access road lol. 2nd. While I concede you have a point especially regarding emergency and tactical reloads. It is up to the stage designer to mandate this during their stage, and more should. Especially in today's world all we should practice all skills as much as we can. Lynn, As always Thank you for your input and suggestions, it does mean alot that we have people stepping up to help further the club! Sniff
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 15:49:32 GMT -5
I liked when we were able to down stack mags it introduces randomality made us re-load when we weren’t expecting it which I think is a vital skill set.
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Post by RobS on Dec 6, 2018 8:02:53 GMT -5
I would like to see some more club members volunteering to set-up stages for the matches. I don't mind doing it, but sometimes I don't have any good ideas. All it takes is to come up with an everyday scenario in your life, and then translate that to a stage design. Maybe you are at an ATM, sitting at your desk at work, pumping gas, at a restaurant, etc. The ideas are limitless, but that is all I can come up with right now. It'd be great to have other people take their life experiences, and use them to design a stage. This would bring some fresh ideas and make the stages more enjoyable & more practical. And there are always people at the KPDL early who are willing to help someone setting up a stage.
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Post by hwginky on Apr 23, 2022 16:12:09 GMT -5
First, thanks to everybody who set up stages today 4/23/2022. However, here's a couple of thoughts. First, stage 2, with the "wobble board" was a little hazardous. Wasn't necessary, and isn't "real world" unless we're practicing for shootouts during an earthquake. Just saying.
Next, when we have combined matches (ie, PCC plus fun match), how about making it a little more plausible for handgun shooters? I say "handgun" because it should be fair to both auto and revolver shooters. Doing so would be easy. Today, the specified course of fire could have been for PCC, and separate course of fire and scoring for handguns. How? Just have 6 targets at handgun distance, specify as many shots on only those targets as desired, and simply ignore the long range targets. Those 6 targets could also be part of the course for PCC guys. PCCs get one score, handguns get a separate course and score on fewer targets (maybe fun only?). No increase in times to run the stages.
Finally, super short shorts, particularly with thigh holsters, should be banned. They simply cannot be unseen! The stuff of nightmares! (LOL - just kidding. I'm really a clothing libertarian; if you want your undies on display and junk scrunched to one side, go for it!)
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Post by Site Admin on Apr 23, 2022 17:31:00 GMT -5
First, thanks to everybody who set up stages today 4/23/2022. However, here's a couple of thoughts. First, stage 2, with the "wobble board" was a little hazardous. Wasn't necessary, and isn't "real world" unless we're practicing for shootouts during an earthquake. Just saying. Next, when we have combined matches (ie, PCC plus fun match), how about making it a little more plausible for handgun shooters? I say "handgun" because it should be fair to both auto and revolver shooters. Doing so would be easy. Today, the specified course of fire could have been for PCC, and separate course of fire and scoring for handguns. How? Just have 6 targets at handgun distance, specify as many shots on only those targets as desired, and simply ignore the long range targets. Those 6 targets could also be part of the course for PCC guys. PCCs get one score, handguns get a separate course and score on fewer targets (maybe fun only?). No increase in times to run the stages. Finally, super short shorts, particularly with thigh holsters, should be banned. They simply cannot be unseen! The stuff of nightmares! (LOL - just kidding. I'm really a clothing libertarian; if you want your undies on display and junk scrunched to one side, go for it!) Thank you for your feed back. It was a pcc match, we allow handguns for attendance as there are no points it’s purely to allow attendance towards membership. Wobble board, officers are going to only use the extra attachment that was on it today during stages where exfil from the board is not needed. The reason it’s used is to simulate unsure footing. If you ever needed to use your firearm you have no way to know what the footing will be, it’s probably not going to be perfectly level, the perfect temp etc. By proving extraneous variants it helps to train for things of which me cannot control and you must adapt to. However I do appreciate your feedback. ~Joe
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lynnc
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Post by lynnc on May 19, 2022 17:18:04 GMT -5
On the wobble board; just get rid of the trailer hitch ball, it's dangerous. A swaying platform is fine, like it is without the ball. With the ball, the risk of falling is too high.
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Post by Matt S on Aug 1, 2022 20:56:05 GMT -5
Crazy idea. How about a 2-gun league?? I think it would be a hit with a lot of the folks who aren’t too keen on shotguns. Simplifies stage design and is more accessible to a wider field of shooters. Thanks for your consideration.
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Post by smiley on Aug 7, 2022 12:55:20 GMT -5
Crazy idea. How about a 2-gun league?? I think it would be a hit with a lot of the folks who aren’t too keen on shotguns. Simplifies stage design and is more accessible to a wider field of shooters. Thanks for your consideration.
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Post by smiley on Aug 7, 2022 13:27:17 GMT -5
Matt, do you mean a match or separate league? Also has there been any reconsideration re: using the lower range for a rifle stage/stages?
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Post by Site Admin on Aug 7, 2022 14:11:57 GMT -5
Matt, do you mean a match or separate league? Also has there been any reconsideration re: using the lower range for a rifle stage/stages? Lower range is often booked out well in advance through the year and isn’t free.
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Post by Matt S on Aug 15, 2022 17:26:55 GMT -5
Matt, do you mean a match or separate league? Also has there been any reconsideration re: using the lower range for a rifle stage/stages? Lower range is often booked out well in advance through the year and isn’t free. League. Replace 3-gun with 2-gun.
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Post by Site Admin on Aug 15, 2022 18:59:44 GMT -5
Lower range is often booked out well in advance through the year and isn’t free. League. Replace 3-gun with 2-gun. I’d be down for that Rifle and pistol ?
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Post by Matt S on Aug 18, 2022 18:15:06 GMT -5
League. Replace 3-gun with 2-gun. I’d be down for that Rifle and pistol ? Yes. Rifle and pistol only. And due to the shorter ranges, people could probably opt to use PCCs as their rifle (but still have to engage pistol targets with pistols).
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Post by lynnc on Aug 19, 2022 11:47:22 GMT -5
With our bays, it would be better to go pistol/shotgun since you can only use rifle on bays 4 and 5. That way you could use both the pistol and shotgun on all 5 bays. Could make for some interesting stages.
The other route would be to make it a 2 gun match limited to pistol and PCC. This way it would open all 5 bays to both guns.
Now I'm not a fan of the PCC for practical purposes, but to get some rifle and pistol time in on all 5 bays of our range, I could come up with a PCC. Give me an excuse to buy another gun.
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Post by RobS on Aug 28, 2022 11:16:11 GMT -5
I like the idea of a 2 gun with PCC and pistol. That sounds awesome for KPDL!
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